Anselm Kiefer, 1991(?), from an excerpt in the Wim Wender documentary Anselm: Das Rauschen der Zeit (2023).
In audio over what seems to be a 3rd party documentary about the Kiefer show at the Nationalgalerie in Berlin in 1991, the voice-over (in German, English subtitles provided by Wenders; time codes of the Wenders documentary)
[1:00:12] The world Kiefer shows isn't perfect with its morbid landscapes and environments. A master of subtle irritation. He produces large format myths.
The 3rd party documentary then shifts to a recording of an interview or press conference with Kiefer in a gallery. An interviewer asks:
[1:00:27] You were accused of your way of dealing with history, now you are accused of escaping into myth. How do you feel about this contradiction?
Kiefer replies:
[1:00:36] There is no such thing as 'escaping into the myth'. Because the myth is present. Myths represent another way of understanding history, beyond the simply rational.
